there is another tough competitor who is making a name for himself as well. >> as beth parker shows us he is a little older than phelps but committed to his sport. >> well, just a general stiffness i take painkillers to ease the ache. when i have a stereo type image of a 57-year-old -- 75-year-old i don't see myself in it some how. >> but he is taking a slice out of a lot of stereo types. >> double take kind of thing. >> that is the response this anne arundel county man usually gets when he tells people he is a fencer not just any here he is atop the medals stand at the usa fencing medal championships earlier this month he won gold in the veteran men's division. >> you are constantly solving a puzzle some refer it to the sport as physical chess. >> all about tricking your opponent >> i am going to go here to draw them in. >> fencers earn points for each touch. >> beginner asks me, what makes a good fencer and i look at them and said, a good fencer is a good liar. >> here he is with his coach. he is practicing in silver springs. he first tried the sport 40 years ago. >> i was hooked fro